Daily English Show - Chat

Here's the transcript from today's chat with Sarah of
The Daily Engish Show:

RyanDe: Sarah, I watched thatamericangirl's birthday tribute to you yesterday or the day before, there was
a screen shot from your first ever video. how long ago was the first video

SarahJL: Yeah. That was a great birthday present.

SarahJL: Monday 2 April 2006.

SarahJL: I mean 3rd

GeoffT: Wow, less than a year

MichaelMa: TDES is young

SarahJL: Yeah.

MichaelMa: and growing ever so quivly

MichaelMa: quickly

GeoffT: Already a brand to reckoned with!

MichaelMa: indeed

SarahJL: Yeah I guess you can really notice the difference if you watch the early shows.

GeoffT: be reckoned

SarahJL: Thanks : )

SergioMa: It is absolutely brilliant!

SarahJL: Thank you.

RyanDe: I love it too Sarah :smiles

GeoffT: I love what you are doing in TDES

MichaelMa: Are you going to set up a web site to "centralize" your
shows, Sarah?

SarahJL: Do you mean host them on my own site?

MichaelMa: No, do you have a site alreadty?

SarahJL: Many sites : )

MichaelMa: ah...

RyanDe: ( just to let you know, you can expand the chat window by
selecting DETACH from the Actions pull down menu )

SarahJL: http://www.geocities.com/thedailyenglishshow/

SarahJL: That's kind of the central place.

MichaelMa: I have only seen a sozen of your shows, and the question
didn't come up...

MichaelMa: i see

SergioMa: Sarah, I have a technical question. A lot of your show takes
place indoor. How do you control lighting?

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SarahJL: I have two garden spotlights.

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MichaelMa: Sorry, I bumped myself out of the room

SergioMa: Garden spotlights? Are they inexpensive?

SarahJL: If you watch this show you can see the lighting set up.

SarahJL: My boyfriend bought them... just a second...

SergioMa: Thanks a lot!

SarahJL: He said about 2000 yen each.

MichaelMa: how do you click on a link without leaving this room?

SergioMa: Great!

GeoffT: Sorry, I fell out the window..

RyanDe: I've never had luck opening links from this chat window using

SarahJL: If you watch the earlier shows you can see the difference in
the lighting. It's not perfect now - but it's better.

SergioMa: I think the black backgound is better.

MichaelMa: I noticed you had 2 lights for your FAQ show

TeresaD: click CTRL and then the link

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TeresaD: the site will open in another window

SergioMa: Especially if you are not close to it

SergioMa: It eliminates the shadows

MichaelMa: I should never have changed to Explorer 7 - that no longer
works, Tere

RyanDe: what are some of the other difference between the older videos
and newer ones?

SarahJL: Sound levels.

TeresaD: it just worked for me, mike

TeresaD: i'm watching sarah's video and wasn't thrown out of here

MichaelMa: hmm

TeresaD: i still have IE6

MichaelMa: oh

SarahJL: Various skills get better every time - editing etc.

TeresaD: mike, you can always go back

SarahJL: I changed editing software after a month or so - and that
improved things too.

SergioMa: Sarah, how do you create the animated clapboard at the
beginning of each episode?

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SarahJL: That was from Video Studio 7 (editing software).

SergioMa: I see

MichaelMa: What part of videomaking do you enjoy the host, Sarah?

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RyanDe: Hi Sue!

SarahJL: The chance to do a variety of things I enjoy - research,
writing, presenting, art.

MichaelMa: hi sue

SergioMa: Hi, Sue!

GeoffT: Hi Sue!

SueP: Hi all!

MichaelMa: Variety, yes

SarahJL: I think I enjoy it all equally.

RyanDe: How did you come up with "Conversations with Sarah" -- great!

MichaelMa: I think it's the same for me

MichaelMa: Yeah, I saw several of those - excellent

SarahJL: From years of teaching and making materials,
using materials, searching on the net for materials...

SergioMa: On a less serious note, your avatar looks like a slightly
cross-eyed person. Is there a meaning in it? My explanation would be that
as you try to defamilarize things using humorous drawings and editing
techniques, you chose an avatar that suggests looking at tings from a
somewhat distorted and therefore fresh perspective. Am I way off the

MichaelMa: And the bonnet for the news!

SarahJL: Sergio... no one has ever asked about that picture before.

RyanDe: ah ha! A new question :)

SergioMa: There is always a new question

SarahJL: The first "Sarah's Diary" show I did, I went to a fire station
in Tokyo. There were lots of elephants. Those are the eyes of one of
the elephants. When I need a picture for the first site I started
uploading to ... that was one of the few pictures I had lying around.

MichaelMa: I really like the way you become two distinct people in all
the shows I saw - that hat, with the different expression on your face,
makes you cool schizo

SarahJL: I think the eyes look cute ... but the main reason is that
more detailed pictures don't look good when they are
so small, so I needed something simple.

RyanDe: interesting

SarahJL: But I like your explination better Sergio!

SergioMa: Thank you, you may have unconscioully chosen
it because of

SarahJL: As for the hat... it has a kind of deeper

RyanDe listens

MichaelMa: yes???

SergioMa: Makes you look like a stick character?

SarahJL: I am interested in the way people believe
what they see on TV
news just because it is read in a certain voice, by
people who look a
certain way...

RyanDe: (Sue, you cand expand the chat window by
selecting DETACH from
the Actions pull down menu)

SueP: great, thank you

MichaelMa: So, you're, like, making fun of news media
in a certain way?

SarahJL: So, by choosing some elements of the
traditional news style
(voice, Jacket) - but with a stripy hat... maybe it
will make people

SueP: Sarah, your show is amazing - fresh, creative. I
wondered what
kinds of reactions you've had from students? Do you
they contact you?

SarahJL: Don't know if I can explain what I mean very

MichaelMa: maybe - i doubt it, though!

SarahJL: I get emails from people, yes. Some people
say they love it

RyanDe: do students come by TDES studios

SarahJL: And lots of comments on YouTube.

SarahJL: No haha! Only the mail people come here.

RyanDe smiles

SarahJL: No paparazzi : (

RyanDe: not yet anyway :)

GeoffT: I do a weekly audio podcast. I tried to have
it very open-ended as to format, but somehow, the
students have been happy to stick with the initial
formula. How has the Daily English show changed over

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MichaelMa: When I first saw the DES about 6 weeks ago,
I said to myself "Right. She thinks she's actually
going to do this EVERY DAY?? You really surprised
me, Sarah, and made me one of your many fans.

SergioMa: Hi Bernardo!

RyanDe: Hi Bernardo!

BernardoH: Godd Morning

SueP: Hi Bernardo

MichaelMa: It takes me about 2 weeks to make one

BernardoH: hi sue

SarahJL: The format hasn't really changed at all.

SergioMa: That is true, but you need new ideas every

MichaelMa: Right - it"='s the regualrity of quality
which is utterly

SarahJL: Thanks.

GeoffT: I guess that makes it easier to produce on a
regular basis

SarahJL: I have so many ideas!!! Not enough days.

BernardoH: Sorry to be late, but I was confused about
the hour of the

SueP: Maybe you've already answered this Sarah, but
how did you get
access to the studio where you make your show?

BernardoH: Where can I see your show, Sue?

MichaelMa: just go to youtube - she will soon be on
the front page

SarahJL: When we moved to Kutchan we just looked for a
place to live
and happened to find this place.

SueP: Bernardo do you mean, Sarah's show?

RyanDe: seems like there are a couple formats: main
format, Sunday
Cooking show, and other.. like the travelling episodes
or the recent "How to tell if you're addicted to
YouTube" episode.

SarahJL: It was my dream to have a studio. We painted

SarahJL: Yes. Mon to Fri regular show. Sunday: Cooking
show. Saturday:
either Sarah's Diary, How to or another random show.

BernardoH: I'm trying to catch up on the conv. Yes

SarahJL: You can watch TDES at many different places.

GeoffT: Blimey - 7 days a week!

SarahJL: Only two English sites: YouTube and grouper.

RyanDe: (Bernardo, you can expand the chat window by
selecting Detach
from the Actions menu)

MichaelMa: Do you mean you upload to several video
plaves like YouTube?

MichaelMa: Grouper?

SarahJL: YouTube is best for watching it on a
computer. Grouper's
quality isn't so good.

SarahJL: Yes.

SarahJL: Watch me tv, pee vee TV etc.

MichaelMa: and ,Japanese Youtubes"?

RyanDe: do you get more traffic from the English sites
or Japanese

SarahJL: Depends...

RyanDe: guess what I mean, is, if knf is maintaining
the Japanese site,
I imagine TDES is gaining popularity in there in

SergioMa: Wow! Besides learning, Japanese, teaching,
researching for
your show, practicing karate, shooting the show,
editing it, cooking,
removing snow, uploading your video to multiple sites,
what do you do in
your spare time? :)

SarahJL: He's been experimenting with different sites.

SarahJL: Sleep : )

SarahJL: Go drinking.

MichaelMa: Question is well put, Sergio!

BernardoH: What's your member name at YouTube, Sarah?

SarahJL: thedailyenglishshow

SergioMa: Geniuses work at a faster pace. That's the

SarahJL: http://www.youtube.com/thedailyenglishshow

CheongS: I've heard of the daily English show, but
what's YouTube?

RyanDe: ha ha

MichaelMa: Just a suggestion - Daily Motion, a French
youtube, is a
very user-friendly place to upload

SarahJL: YouTube is a dangerous, addictive drug.

BernardoH: thanks

SergioMa: Yes, I have seen that show!

SarahJL: OK, thanks, I'll check it out.

SueP: Sarah - you've really started something unique.
What are your
future plans for your show? Would you ever want to
sign up with a producer and be shown on network TV,

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GeoffT: That's a question I wanted to ask to

GeoffT: too

SarahJL: Future plans?

SarahJL: Not sure...

SarahJL: I would like to be able to continue for a
while. So a sponsor
could be an option - but that could be problematic

MichaelMa: That's probably what will happen - Sarah
will gat an offer
very difficult to refuse

SueP: In what way - artistic licence?

GeoffT: Like Amanda Congden

SueP: You could span the globe with your shows.

SarahJL: My "news" is completely biased with my
opinions (anti-war etc) and full of whatever I think
is funny, criticizing whoever I feel

GeoffT: Many audio and video podcasters are trying to
make money from
their "hobby" but you seem to be developing a good
model, of brand
recognition. Is the TDES brand bringing you work? Is
it important to you?

SarahJL: I would like to find a way to have people in
countries other
than Japan find out about the show.

MichaelMa: That IS happening, Sarah

RyanDe: would be interesting to put some segments to
vhs for use in

MichaelMa: Even one of my French students at my school
told me about
your show, as if I hadn't already heard about it

SarahJL: Recently a guy in Iran said he advertised the
show on some
Persian sites - he is really nice ... that kind of
thing is really

SarahJL: Really? Cool.

MichaelMa: (DVD, Ryan)

MichaelMa: yes, really

RyanDe: both would take time

SarahJL: As for your question Geoff - TDES bring me
work. Not yet.

GeoffT: It should!

SarahJL: I am just focusing on doing a good job,
learning more etc...

MichaelMa: That's the spirit

GeoffT: Absolutely.

BernardoH: What specific language objectives are you
trying to reach
with your videos, Sarah?

SarahJL: People can use the shows in many different
ways. For

SarahJL: Learning vocabulary. Listening practice...
pronunciation - if
they don't mind my accent... I know lots of people
hate it : (

SarahJL: Teachers could show parts in class to start a

SarahJL: I try to make the shows a mixture of
entertainment and
education... so ...

MichaelMa: or teach a particular grammar point which
you illustrate

BernardoH: How do you assess if the learning goals
where reached?

GeoffT: I think extensive listening practice with
comprehensible but
authentical speed language use has got to be high on
the list of uses for the show

SarahJL: hopefully people will get addicted to
watching every day and
it will be a kind of "extra" to add to their regular

MichaelMa: right on

SergioMa: I think it can engage learners at different
levels. That is
one of the secrets of the show.

SarahJL: Yeah, thanks.

CheongS: lot's of opportunity for vocab development...
even for us
older native English speakers

BernardoH: How do you get feedback on your ratings?

SarahJL: And I am happy that also many native English
speakers are
watching every day.

SarahJL: Feedback on ratings?

MichaelMa: Check out YouTube, Bernardo - it's pretty

BernardoH: thanks michael

MichaelMa: you're welcome

SueP: One of things I love about your show is the
unexpected content,
the surprise element. Though there are great textbooks
out there, your
show can bring into class the feeling of "right now"
and I think
students will connect to that.

GeoffT: And it's always of the moment, current...

SarahJL: Thanks Sue. I think so too ...

BernardoH: You Tube ratings have general targets, I
mean specific
student learning targets

SarahJL: Students really enjoy talking about current

SarahJL: I'm still not sure what you mean Bernardo.

RyanDe: I have a suggestion

SarahJL: Fire away.

RyanDe: Bernardo, would you be willing to conduct a
focus group of
sorts with a group of students and episodes of TDES?

MichaelMa: good idea!

RyanDe: Would be a great help to all

RyanDe: just a thought

RyanDe: Sarah

SarahJL: Yeah

RyanDe: What advice, if any, would you offer to
teachers interested in
making videos for their students?

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SarahJL: What kind of videos? Like what I'm doing? For
students to
study at home?

BernardoH: Sorry, connection problems

TeresaD: sarah, your page has been linked in my OLE
page of resources
and i'll be updating the link. it's seen by many
people all over the
world, so i hope it also helps spread the word :-)

SarahJL: I'm not sure if I have any advice. I guess it
depends on your

SarahJL: Thanks Teresa!!

TeresaD -)

SarahJL: Much appreciated : )

SueP: Also, (change of subject?) your answer to the
different English
accents in your FAQs video was right on. I think it's
important for our
students to be exposed to as much as we can give them.
understanding culture is the key to becoming fluent,
but as English becomes (is)
the international language - our prospectives will

MichaelMa: The group which Ryan moderates involves
teachers and
students making video together as ESL projects...

SarahJL: Definately, Sue.

CheongS: Sarah, can you give us a hint for tomorrow's

SergioMa: What I admired is that ibnstead of telling
the questioner
that he or she was an ignorant twit, you said you
could understand why he or she thought that way.

SarahJL: I try to introduce videos made my people with
accents - South African etc

CheongS: Sound's cool, i'm looking forward to it

SarahJL: Haha I rant and rave at my computer screen -
but I would never
do that in a video!

SergioMa: That's one suggestion to aspirant video
makers, contain your

SarahJL: Also, I try to leave the nonsensical comments
there so others
can reply.

TeresaD: sarah, it's updated and uploaded

SarahJL: If you look at the comments under the very
first video on
YouTube.. it's quite funny.

MichaelMa: You're a champ, Tere

TeresaD: lol

TeresaD: that's multitasking :-)

SarahJL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmpou2hAfeU

SarahJL: "I am an American and I can barely understand
your poor
pronunciation. Please speak more sharply and
distinctly for your students. They would greatly
benefit from that improvement."


GeoffT: Foolish person

SergioMa: To put it mildly, geoof

GeoffT: ACtually, some very slow-speaking podcasts are
awful models

SarahJL: "the narrator can't pronounce "r"
sounds...not a good way to
teach japanese to speak english... "

GeoffT: I can understand everything - no problem

SergioMa: So can I

SarahJL: Thanks : )

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SueP: As you mentioned, Sarah, scripts are available
and useful for

SergioMa: Yes, that is essential for low level ones

SergioMa: Providing the script is much better than
artificially slowly

RyanDe: Sarah,Thank You very much for chatting with us

GeoffT: Subitles (which people can switch on or off)
below the picture
might be a help for very low levels, but I suppose the
technology is
not quite there?

BernardoH: I was refering to specific rubrics, and how
you achieve them
through your videos with your students.

RyanDe: I don't know how much more time we have

TeresaD: thanks from lisbon, portugal, sarah! it's a
lovely sunny

GeoffT: Thank you, Sarah. Sarah, you (and others) are
leading the way in the kind of targetted media publishing that can
only increase in the future: the kind of TV show for
English language learners that they would find hard to
get any other way. (With your journalism background,
you may have an advantage.) Thank you. Media
publishing is also about personality, TV presence,
etc. You've got it!

SarahJL: Thanks for all your kind words!

:: All concur with Geoff::
The End